A Prophetic Teacher once said, "If you dont go away from this with something of worth which you want to outwork into your life, or you hear what i am saying and there is no beneficial life application - Its Not Teaching". GAZ.DRUM@NTLWORLD.COM - LETS TALK This blog is dedicated to truths or views which lend themselves to LIFE APPLICATION when the walls of church are no longer there to '''KEEP US SAFE AND SEPARATE TILL HEAVEN'''.

Tuesday, April 12, 2005

Family Christmas? Shmishmass

It has been an often used comment - that 'family church' is a little like Christmas, its great when it happens, but you wouldnt want to do christmas every week.
A fair comment, but it eludes to the notion that we are only family when we are in the same space and time, or crammed into the same front room around the door you were going to throw away last year but means the 2 new grand kinds manage not to evict grandma to the sofa with a dinner tray and bib.
In congregational circles, i often hear people saying how inportant the sunday meeting is, to ensure that we are all 'together' as family. This in turn leads me to an article in the Evangelical Alliance mag that i read today in the loo. It was about how we can give space to generationally specific church gatherings - for example - youth church, but it is not an end in itself, because we still need to be together, to fulfill a biblical picture of the Christian family.....Durrr!

But that implies some HUUUUUUGE pressupostions (had to try and spell that and not say suppository), that our congregation centre mindset, is correct and the 'Higher Ground' of being together.
In all honesty, you can be 10 or 300 together in a room across the generational span, and NOT be together at all, other than in this visual, polite and probably genuinely aspired way (((( In Fact!!!! just today - a lady who has done some research in what one would deem to be 'healthy' congregation - told me that a repeating theme is Loneliness. Also - that a church in another town has a very good model of a 'buddy system' to address some of this. Great - i like that, but doesnt it say - even a little - that the family meeting - produces a 'feeling of well being' that doesnt last the week for some/ many - where does little jimmy visit old granny in her nursing home confines))))
I know many churches where this is held aloft, but outside of that hours meeting once a week, there may be very little generational cross over, or LIFEBLOOD that jesus would recognise as embodying......................well......................The Body i guess. You know, that connection to life laying down loving. At best (and thank god they do this) its the pastors wife and five of the least physically impaired of the oldies, who facilitate a get together or luncheon mid week. Im not nocking that at all - long may it continue. But what the heck is this CHRISTIAN FAMILY THING that we are meant to embody, cause it sure as heck isnt about an hour in the same time and space each week, any more than its embodied as bioligical family in my front room once a year. If we hold this up as a moral virtue - How is it really meant to be expressed? I think we settle for something very very low grade indeed if we can smile at the new baby and grandma weatherwax on sunday and feel we are doing something rich and profound.

5 Comments:

Blogger loren said...

Hello Gaz,

Just dropped by and read your posting. I think, in the first century, the 'primary' fellowship structure was a home church, though the different home churches in the city came together weekly to eat the Lord's supper. I read this between the lines in 1 Cor 11:17-34.

So both existed side-by-side, but home church is where the deeper relationships were being formed. This is a practical necessity. If you attend a church with several hundred members, try spending five minutes of 'quality time' with each of them. We just can't stretch that far.

So what was the purpose for them all meeting together at all? To talk about the Lord obviously, but I'd also have to say it was for broader fellowship, to help find others whom you can connect with, who had common interestes; and, yes, I mean that in the sense of networking too: to see could meet each other's needs in the body.

Here's a thought for you. You obviously meet in a church service. Might your 'bigger church' be a community you find through blogging?

I have a friend who believes that blogging may be the vehicle for a coming reformation. I believe in the reformaiton and I'm giving blogging a try. I suppose the need to change is born from our present discontent. Good posting.

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Blogger Heidi said...

Hey gaz! update your blog mate! love H

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Blogger Andrew said...

Three thoughts from a worn-out pastor trying his best:

I suppose since it's true of some families that Christmas (once a year) is about all they'd either care to or be able to manage with each other, it's probably not out of the question that some branches of God's family feel the same--however dysfunctional such a position may be.

Paul urges us not to neglect gathering together, so there must be something the Holy Spirit wishes to accomplish in groups that cannot be done elsewhere (or, rather, that He chooses not to do elsewhere).

The key is that "blood is thicker than water". That is, the familial relationship which exists between members of the Body of Christ (blood) is far superior to that whcih exists between members of a merely human family (water). Whether in large or small groups, organised formally or informally, irrespective of style and so on, those who are truly "in Christ" ought to be able to meet together for mutual worship, instruction, encouragement and so on. IMHO anyway.

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Blogger Michael McMullen said...

Not sure if you still check this thing, but It's Mike from Blaze here. Shoot me an email (sorry, don't have yours).

Also, great post.

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Blogger al bino said...

Gaz here, just working out how to reply to comments:
Couple of things for all above comments, i dont meet in a diaried structured way At All with my community, other than a weekend away together every so ofen where we throw things into the mix where we sense a defecit or a need to adjust further to the cross. I meet in aplanned with in town church stuff though.
What is corporate? 2 or more?
What is corporate if bog, then anything less than the whole body? is that corporate. I think we bring paradigms to those questions, stuff we already have bedded down.
The difference between Biological family and Christian Family is that ours has to be invasive, it has little space for convenience or simply walking with others already like us, fitting our criteria for the smoothest route.
It needs to have time and space for peopel who fall and people who cant walk at all, for the destitute and those who dont get fixed overnight. Invasive Christian family needs to have gone through 'sheet decending moment' where all that makes us twitch and recoil in the natural has 'extend your personal tentpegs writtne through it - through us. This is the bit i need to adjust to most, and fail most at, but we keep hearing 'authentic community' thrown around - but i see so much of 'people we like' in that.

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